How to Avoid Being Mind Controlled at a Conference - Presentation at the 2016 Annual Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control Conference - August 2016
The information in this article was written with the help and research of several survivors and well-known, well-published therapists in the child abuse, ritual abuse and mind control fields over almost a twenty year period. Participants of several ritual abuse conferences helped research the information in this article.
Article copied with permission from https://ritualabuse.us
The most recent updated version of this information is at:
https://survivorship.org/survivorship-articles/how-to-avoid-being-mind-controlled-at-a-conference/
The information at the above webpage was reviewed and written by several people at Survivorship. The article below has direct quotes from this page, which will be cited as “Survivorship article.” Parts added by Neil Brick for his presentation will be in parenthesis.
Please note: The experiences and triggers mentioned below may or may not be forms of programmed mind controlled for all survivors. Different survivors have different types of programming. Some people do not have severe forms of mind control programming, but they may be susceptible to media propaganda, societal forms of mind control and socialization, and cult techniques of mind control.
This presentation has been adapted for the Internet. It was presented at the conference by Neil Brick, a survivor of ritual abuse and mind control. His work continues to educate the public about child abuse, trauma and ritual abuse crimes. His child abuse and ritual abuse newsletter S.M.A.R.T. has been published for over 20 years. His articles can be found at http://neilbrick.com
All accusations are alleged.
The ideas I discuss here today are solely my own or where cited taken from specific cited sources.
The idea for this article originally came from two presentations written for the early S.M.A.R.T. conferences by several people. It was re-written this year by the Survivorship Board of Directors and can be found on their website. I have adapted and changed some of this article for this presentation.
Survivorship article:
“How to Avoid Being Mind Controlled at a Conference
This information is for educational value only and is not intended as therapy or treatment. Reading this information may or may not help your recovery process, so please use caution while reading this. This may be heavy for survivors.
Precautions
While the Conference organizers are doing everything possible to make this conference safe, we are not able to make guarantees, and attendees should also take their own precautions. Because of the controversial nature of the topics covered in this conference, you might want to take additional precautions.
You might want to use an alias at the conference, and put that alias on your conference name tag. Do not give your real name or information about where you live or your contact information to other conference attendees. If a conference presenter asks for such information, ask the conference organizer whether this is permissible.
If you find this helpful, bring a small object which you find comforting, and can keep in your hand or pocket to hold on to in order to keep you in the present if you find yourself triggered.”
(Please note: We strongly discourage going into child alters at this or any conference. Child alters are easier to access with triggers. Please try to stay in adult alters that are fully aware and cognizant of your surroundings. You can use mindfulness exercises to do this.)
“Bringing Support Persons
We encourage conference attendees to travel in pairs with a safe support person as much as possible at the conference. I am not saying this to scare anyone. I believe this is simply more sensible. That way, if anyone does attempt to trigger you, there will be another person there to help you and tell the other person to leave. If anyone has any trouble with anyone at the conference, please let us know either verbally or on paper during or after the conference. We have tried to make the conference as safe as possible, but it is impossible to make anything totally safe. A safe support person can be an excellent help at a conference. Such a person can help a survivor avoid and process post-traumatic and programming triggers.
However, sometimes persons that survivors think are their supports are actually their handlers, persons who report their behavior to the abuser group and make sure they are obedient. Such a person can be a therapist, a spouse, a friend or another survivor. If you knew the support person before you knew you were a survivor, this person could be a handler. It is difficult in early recovery to know if a support person is a handler. Someone in your life may be a handler if seeing that person makes you feel overly dependent, in a trance state or addicted to being with that person.
Before you bring a support person to a conference, you need to check with your inside parts to make sure that all parts trust this person and do not believe them to be a handler.
Observing Others
It is helpful to know the accessing methods of secretive organizations and/or cults. Following are some known methods. Look for odd hand gestures, such as opening a book, making the shape of a gun with the pointer finger and thumb and "shooting" it, using the cut sign (hand drawn horizontally across the throat), tapping something (a book, the wrist (as in asking for the time), forearm, leg, etc., drawing something in the air (like a letter of the alphabet or an unknown sign)). Winks or facial expressions: winks, or eyes shutting and opening in sequence, or eyebrows, weird grins or bared teeth, snarl (raised upper lip), pout (dropped and protruded lower lip), lopsided smile or grimace (corner of mouth down or up). Though some of these may or may not always signify triggers, it is important to be aware of them.” (Also, a common hand signal is covering one’s mouth, to encourage don’t talk programming.)
(I was strongly attacked and criticized publicly for discouraging the use of hand signals during a ritual abuse conference. This was done by people working to discredit the research in our field and to silence the work of many professionals who are helping survivors work through their triggers and programming.)
(Those using dishonest debate tactics, will use the words delusional or paranoid to describe researchers who believe in mind control techniques. Name calling is a propaganda technique used to unfairly discredit a person and their ideas without discussing the reality of their ideas. There is no evidence anyone is delusional or paranoid, simply because they believe in the nefarious use of mind control techniques. The concepts I am talking about here today are scientifically proven by specialists in our field (several of whom are speaking this weekend), whose research is backed by the theories of those in the field of behavioralism and those studying cult mind control.)
(It is important people learn to not use hand signals and also learn to not trigger other people’s programming in other ways at this conference and in their own lives. This is why we emphasize this concept so strongly at this conference. Understanding this is an important part of recovery from mind control.)
(There are two important reasons for learning about triggers:
1) Other survivors can recover more quickly if their programming is not accessed and re-activated.
2) You can learn about your own triggers. In a safe setting with your own therapist you can learn about the subliminal programming you may have.)
(If at any time during the conference you have the sensation of your face getting itchy and then your hands go to your face in a dissociated state, you may possibly have programming to use hand signals. You can work on these trauma memories in a professional setting with a safe professional person to figure out why you do this.)
The following comes from a petition written to defend survivors. This excerpt explains the logic and research behind the theory of the misuse of hand signals.
Hand signals function as post-hypnotic suggestions, as anyone who is familiar with hypnosis will know. You might also remember Pavlov’s dog, who salivated at the sound of a bell. This is basic conditioning, stimulus-response. Child traffickers teach such signals to the children they traffic and they condition these children to respond immediately in particular ways and are used in many cults to control members. More complex conditioning can be done on human beings. It is well known that PTSD flashbacks can be triggered by certain stimuli (like sounds, smells or colors) in veterans, trauma and accident survivors. These PTSD survivors may fully believe they are back in the trauma situation and react as if they are in that situation. The concept of PTSD and PTSD triggers is similar to the programmed triggers we discuss at this conference.
The concept of triggers and programmed reactions is scientifically proven through years of behavioral research and research on cults and mind control situations.
There are several excellent articles at the ritualabuse.us website about this concept, including:
An article written by me describing this phenomenon:
How Cues and Programming Work in Mind Control and Propaganda
https://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/how-cues-and-programming-work-in-mind-control-and-propaganda/
This article cites the research of Pavlov, Skinner and Sargant (Battle for the Mind: A Physiology of Conversion and Brainwashing).
Quotes from the “Cues and Programming” article:
“Programming is similar to this in several ways. A survivor may be tortured repeatedly until an new alter is created. This alter will be given a cue to let them know when to come out, this could be a smell, word, number, sound, color and so on. This cue is either paired with the alter’s creation and is given to the alter to listen for or to look for.”
“William Sargant first looked at combat PTSD and compared it to Pavlov’s classical conditioning. He extended Pavlov’s model to explain how people could change their world view suddenly. This was caused by intense trauma, followed by a person’s personality breaking down, followed by the application of new ways of thinking. Pavlov’s dogs during a flood either forgot or reversed their previous training. First, Pavlov’s “equivalent” phase of brain activity or breakdown occurred. Second, Pavlov’s “paradoxical inhibition” occurred where weak stimuli would produce strong responses and strong stimuli would produce weak responses (inappropriate responses). Third, in the “ultraparadoxical” stage, responses changed from positive to negative and vice-versa. Current models of PTSD suggest that PTSD can be understood as learned helplessness, a set of foci in the brain firing repeatedly and inappropriately. Cognitively, a person’s world view is so changed as to become untenable. Pavlov’s observations on animals breaking down under extreme stress could be applied to humans and survivors.
Pavlov was able to build up and break down behavior patterns in dogs. Pavlov’s work seems to have influenced confession getting and brainwashing techniques. Pavlov’s dogs had four basic temperaments, strong excitatory, lively, calm imperturbable type and melancholic. Each type reacted differently to stress. Pavlov could cause a dog to break down by increasing the intensity of a signal (electricity), delaying the time between the signal and food, confusing them with positive and negative signals interchanged or tampering with its physical condition. If a dog of stable temperament acquires a behavior after extreme stress, it is hard to break this behavior. The could be compared to a person of strong character becoming a one-track minded fanatic. Some survivors may also become fanatics.
The implications for survivors of ritual abuse and their symptoms are obvious. Increased trauma could cause dissociation, making a person more susceptible to suggestion. The delay of gratification could also make one more suggestible. Positive and negative signals interchanged, like praise and insults given rapidly may cause a psychological break. Or the lack of sleep, food or drugging can also make one more suggestible. And once a survivor becomes suggestible, they are easier to program or reprogram.”
(Let’s take a quick break. Lightly tap your feet, feel the chair under you, move around in your chair a bit and become mindful of your surroundings. If you feel dissociated or spacey at all, lightly shake your head or do other mindfulness exercises to stay present. Later you can try to remember what may have caused you to feel dissociated and discuss this with a support person. )
To continue with the different types of programming and triggers:
Survivorship article:
“Some forms of programming use Christian or New Age religious phrases or dogma to cue people and remind them of their programming. Other that may be used include Disney themes, like Alice in Wonderland, Aladdin, or The Little Mermaid. Any children's stories or movies which were around during your childhood, such as the Wizard of Oz, may have cult meanings.
Other more general methods are any form of double-talk or double entendres, or words or phrases with double meanings, off-color jokes, and so on. Any out of place references to morbid, violent, ugly, sexual topics. Disorienting or confusing speakers: such as those who start a sentence on one topic and use an incongruency to finish it." e.g., "My glasses are red [because/and] it's raining outside." When questioned about what s/he means, the speaker may say something like "I'm hungry" (which may be an excuse for the confusion, or may just be another non sequitur). Disorientation increases suggestibility. Disorientation is used in some forms of hypnotic induction. Word plays or sayings, especially those which could refer to political or famous persons.”
(Shock type techniques may be used to mind control people, to get people to remember or believe an idea without thinking logically about it. Skeptical organizations attacking survivors may use this technique. This is a dishonest way to promote one’s ideology. It is done without the recipient person’s consent or knowledge of what is happening. The person often leaves the situation believing the idea presented by the shock type technique without it being logically discussed with them and usually without their intellectual analysis. This often happens in the United States media. People are scared into focusing on an enemy or another fear causing situation and then they forget about the problems with our political leaders and our economic system.)
Survivorship article:
“Survivors may sometimes be triggered without knowing it. Whole groups of people can be put in a trance and given instructions through cues.
Use caution on the telephone. If you feel you are getting hypnotized or spacey on the phone, shake your head hard and excuse yourself from the conversation. Texts and e-mails received during the conference may be designed to make you susceptible to your programming. It is wisest not to take phone calls during the conference unless they are from someone you are completely sure is safe.
(There are specific technologies that uses tones and sounds to induce meditative states. When used properly, this technology can help people relax. When not used properly, this technology can be used plant suggestions in people. Large cults in the US use a wide variety of techniques to produce suggestible states and eventually new cult personas. These new personas may work twenty hours a day for the cult for free or cause people to totally change their personal belief systems in a few weeks or less. This is scientifically proven and well documented.)
Survivorship article:
“Attending Presentations
Some of the presentations might be triggering due to their content.
If you feel triggered, please step back and do some self care. To stay present, take deep breaths, touch your clothing, and try to feel the chair you are sitting on and the floor under your feet. Use the small object you brought to let you know where you are.
If this is insufficient, take a break but do not go for a walk alone. Tell your safe support person, if you have one, that you are feeling triggered and need to leave with them and go outside. Stand up, making sure your safe support person (if you have one) is leaving with you. Sometimes the safe support person may not know you need to them to be with you. Often perpetrators will corner a person either in the back of a conference room or another room. This may occur when the survivor goes to the bathroom or walks down the hall to another room. Teddy bears and children’s books can bring a survivor into a child state in which he or she is more susceptible to being accessed. For this reason we do not encourage survivors to bring such things to the conference, and we no longer provide them.”
(If you feel cornered or uneasy with a person in the hallway or other place away from the conference, quickly walk away from them and come back to the conference area and find me or another volunteer at the conference. It is not rude to walk away and this may greatly help your recovery and help you become aware of being triggered and accessed.)
Survivorship article:
“Check inside to see which parts of you are upset and why. Inquire internally whether you are having a post-traumatic reaction, in which something reminded you of some past event or person in your own life, or whether programming has been triggered.
Try and figure out what the presenter did or said which caused these feelings. Did the presenter use a particular phrase or body movement that was once used as a threat against you or as a signal to deliberately trigger programming? Remember that your perpetrators used common words and gestures and twisted their meaning. It is likely that the presenter used those words or gestures in the regular way, not the cult way, but it is possible that he or she meant to trigger programming.
Write down what was triggering and discuss it with your support person or one of the conference organizers. Please report any use of program trigger words or behaviors to the conference organizers, either in person or through a note during or after the conference.
Dealing with Other Conference Attendees
Most people are going to act fairly normally, and because programmers/handlers or scouts for secretive organizations or cults are not likely to look any different from most people, it is helpful to be alert to possible signs of attempted accessing.
Do not give any personal details about your life to conference attendees, even if you believe you have met them online. Almost every ritual abuse survivor has parts inside who are trained to report on other survivors to the perpetrators. You do not want anyone reporting about you.
Don't shake hands or exchange hugs with anyone you don't know. Certain cults use handshakes to remind people of their programming and/or access certain alter states.
Survivors are in different places in their healing, and their knowledge about programming methods and their ability to recognize such things. There are two ways to catch triggers: one is by your own reactions. If you notice you are suddenly dizzy or foggy, or spaced out, you may be triggered. It is good to know some grounding techniques to use when this begins to happen. Try to remember what just happened around you. The second is by looking for some specific behaviors, odd out of place phrases, or discrepancies between behaviors and words. Pay close attention to hand gestures, winks, taps, etc.
Most people are probably safe, but it is a good idea to be aware of your surroundings as much as possible. You might want to watch who is around you, who is within your physical space, who brushes shoulders with you, who touches you, who sits next to you, who is near your food, in all areas of the hotel, as well as watch where you drive and what cars are behind or near you. Don’t go off to a secluded area with anyone you don’t know well.
One important thing is if you are feeling triggered or dissociated or tired or weak, don’t let people that you don’t know or trust and/or people that aren’t safe ask you to leave the conference room to talk with you. If you see someone you don’t know walking up to you when you are feeling triggered or dissociated you might want to say “excuse me” and quickly walk away from them and find a support person or a conference organizer.
Please notify us during or after the conference if you see any of the things, such as deliberate triggering, mentioned in this article. Try to let us know what happened in as much detail as possible.
Trigger Management
Triggers are more than phrases. They can be pictures, sounds, smells, tastes, gestures or touches on the body. The added dangers for triggers for ritual abuse survivors are that triggers can be used to open alter states, or very complex programs. These programs could be used to cause a return to the cult or cause someone to hurt themselves or someone else.
Triggering can occur in so many forms that it is impossible to delineate them all here. Some signs of triggering may be: feeling like you're looking or walking down a tunnel, feeling "unreal" or invisible, feeling like something bad is about to happen, ominous sense, inability to concentrate, spacing out, blanking, dizziness, fogginess, stomach upset or pain, tingling in arms or legs, twitching on any part of the body, dropping objects, mishearing things or inability to hear (where others appear to hear okay), seeing visual flashes (such as a flash of another object where a chair is), hearing voices in your head, or losing bits of time and not knowing what happened. If you brought a safe support person, let that person know what is happening.
Trigger management is one of the keys to recovery. By being able to manage your triggers, you can hopefully keep from being triggered into alter states that could possibly be used to get you to return to the cult. This entails knowing the trigger and the feeling accompanying the trigger, the memory connected to the trigger and the action required of the trigger.
Working through programming is having the memory in a safe setting with a safe support person and learning the accompanying trigger and subliminal instruction.
Trigger management involves learning to recognize the feeling of falling into a deep hypnotic state, snapping out of it, and then trying to figure out why it happened. It also involves learning how not to fall into these states while feeling the “pull” of them. One technique that can be used is: Shake your head side to side (fairly hard) or walk around.
Susceptibility to triggers can come from being tired or confused. This is why it is important to try not to be tired or confused in possibly triggering situations. Try to stay awake and alert. Get enough sleep.
Practicing Trigger Management Techniques.
Think of a time when you were triggered. It could be a minor triggering event, one that made you feel a little bit scared, or a major event that caused you to switch into a different alter. You may want to start with a more minor triggering event for safety reasons.
Practice leaving the room: Pretend you are triggered and need to leave. If you have a safe support person with you, take that person along.
Think about the feeling that accompanied the triggering event. This may vary from one trigger to another. Did you begin to feel spacey, like a fog rolling in, or did your ears begin to feel like they were filled with something, so it was difficult to hear? Did you lose a connection to the feelings in your body and your chair? What other feelings or thoughts did you have?
Now, think about the physical feelings that accompanied the trigger, while you are writing, think about these questions. Did a different part of you come out? Were you co-conscious with this part, or did you actually lose time? If you switched, either completely or behind the front person, what do you know about the part who came out?
Think about what triggered the event in the first place: a sound, smell, picture, word or phrase, a touch or a combination of these senses.
Safety at Home
Please remember that your recovery is your own. It is important for survivors to choose their own spiritual systems. Unfortunately, certain religious and healing techniques are used for programming people (to put people into hypnotic states) sometimes and are used on RA/MC survivors. Be wary of those that emphasis that there is only one way to heal. Educate yourself about cults and their techniques also. There are several very good books that can help with this.
(Some types of prayer and certain houses of worship are specifically designed to put people into trances. High ceilings, repeated phrases, putting prayers to music, repeating the same phrases, making people feel guilty in spiritual settings are all techniques that can be used to make people more suggestible. Some of the same dynamics may be found at a mall or used car dealership, including the uses of special lighting, high ceilings and other techniques, where the goal is to get people to buy things.)
Survivorship article:
Look very closely at the relationships in your life. Does a certain person in your life fit the profile of a handler or an abuser? Can you say something about the profile of a handler or an abuser? Ask inside whether anyone recognizes things the person is doing or saying which indicates they may be one? If they do, find out more about this, work with a safe therapist and if necessary get away from the person, place and/or situation.
An important part of recovery and not being triggered is to think for yourself. Don’t let others control you or scare you. Scaring you or startling you can put you into a hypnotic state also. Fear can also create hypnotic states.
Some people in the survivor movement (from ritual abuse and mind control) appear to have a cult like following. Some speak regularly at conferences, and have lots of books, media support, etc. While this is not indicative of the fact that the person may not be safe, it may be an indicator of this if other factors are in place, especially if numerous allegations are made against the person.
The important thing is not to have any gurus. To critically analyze everything someone says. This is a learning process. Does the person want to have followers? Are they always overstating their power and connections? Do they have appropriate personal boundaries? How does your “gut” feel when you hear them speak or when you meet them? You might not like someone personally and you may disagree with them from time to time, but how do they really make you feel? Do they encourage you to think for yourself rather than follow them? Or do they tell you there is only one way to heal? Do they try to manipulate you and use you, either financially, sexually or otherwise? Who are they connected with financially, and what conferences do they speak at? A combination of many of these negative factors may indicate an unsafe person. An important thing to realize is that people don’t know they are being brainwashed, because it is subliminal. Often those brainwashed will love and admire their abuser, which is called Stockholm syndrome.
The important thing is whether the person tells you to think for yourself and find your own answers and whether they really mean this. Speakers at other conferences may prophesy that certain things are going to happen on certain dates. While it is good to be aware of the fact that cult programming can entrain a person to connect a future occurrence with a future date, it is also important to realize that this is only programming. Cults will often move dates up when the expected occurrence does not happen.
Discernment is crucial here. It is also important not to be constantly paranoid, though this can help at times to avoid programming. There are safe people in the world that want to help us. The important thing is figuring out who is safe and who isn’t. Staying present rather than dissociating can really be helpful in this area.
Make your own decisions. There are good support systems and advice out there, but make sure you make your own decisions. Healthy intelligent change is good. Follow you own path or way and be strong enough to do this. If you do this, you will begin to take control of your own triggers and develop a healthy, trigger management system. Please feel free to let us know how you feel about this topic.
Our future is up to us. If we keep healing, working hard and getting strong, then the survivor movement as a whole will also get stronger. Once you are strong enough to help others, you might want to do so. By attending a conference which shows the unity of the survivor movement, you are doing this. By being here, you are helping everyone get stronger.
This information for the Survivorship article was primarily taken from these two articles :
Safety Management for Conference Attendees https://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/conf2002/safety-management-for-conference-attendees/
and
Trigger Management and Conference Safety Presentation
https://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/conf1999/trigger-management-and-conference-safety-presentation/
Copyright Neil Brick and SMART c 2016 unless otherwise cited
Neil Brick is a survivor of ritual abuse. He is an advocate against child abuse. Articles by Neil Brick are at http://neilbrick.com/ and http://ritualabuse.us/smart/neil-brick/
Tuesday, August 16, 2016
Thursday, July 14, 2016
Reply to the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post
Reply to the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post.
Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves (both aliases) is the co-founder of the Satanic Temple and one of the presenters for the Grey Faction. This article discusses the continuing attacks and online harassment of Neil Brick and S.M.A.R.T. by these groups and others.
This article represents the views of the S.M.A.R.T. Newsletter and this website.
Copied with permission from neilbrick.com
Original article is at: Reply to the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-satanic-temples-grey-faction-online-guest-post/
Recently another article attacking S.M.A.R.T., Neil Brick and the child abuse/ritual abuse field appeared on the Internet, called “The Satanic Temple sent observers to a Ritual Abuse survivors’ conference.” The article states it is a guest post and a collaboration produced by The Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction. S.M.A.R.T. has replied to the Grey Faction’s misinformation previously in this article: Rebuttal to the Grey Faction Lucien Greaves presentation about SMART and additional Grey Faction information about Neil Brick https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-grey-faction-lucien-greaves-presentation-about-smart-and-additional-grey-faction-information-about-neil-brick/
The Grey Faction’s views of the ritual abuse field and recovered memory are inaccurate.
Accurate scientific information is at:
Proof the Ritual Abuse Exists https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/
Ritual Abuse References http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/
Research https://ritualabuse.us/research/
Recovered Memories https://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-corroboration-rates/
Please don’t forget to read the conclusion at the end of the article.
Update: Continued bullying, online harassment, name calling and personal attacks are occurring in the comment section under the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post. New aliases believed to belong to Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves (also aliases) continue these comments. These comments continue to attack Neil Brick for not allowing hands to go to the face which could be hand signals at the conference.
One poster (defending survivors) in the comment section wrote: “Thank you for allowing my clarification of hand signals to be posted on the website. These signals function as post-hypnotic suggestions, as anyone who is familiar with hypnosis will know. You might also remember Pavlov’s dog, who salivated at the sound of a bell. This is basic conditioning, stimulus-response. Child traffickers teach such signals to the children they traffic and they condition these children to respond immediately in particular ways.”
Hand signals are also discussed below.
Yet commenters below the article continue to make fun off and insult Neil Brick for this conference guideline.
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The guest post has a video of Neil Brick, recorded without permission at a private conference where video and audio recording is not permitted to protect the anonymity of the attendees, who were rape and trauma victims. It appears the person who recorded the video of Neil Brick misrepresented their reasons for attending the conference and did not tell the truth about their personal information. The video falsely insults Neil Brick by using the word paranoid to describe his presentation. Neil presents material backed by research during the video. The video discusses the use of hand signals to trigger certain mind states.
It is well known in the scientific field that triggers or certain stimuli can trigger mind states and/or thought patterns. In the modern era, Pavlov did extensive research on classical conditioning, where a conditioned stimuli produces a conditioned response. His dogs would salivate when they heard a bell without the presence of food. More complex conditioning can be done on human beings.
It is well known that PTSD flashbacks can be triggered by certain stimuli (like sounds, smells or colors) in veterans, trauma and accident survivors. These survivors may totally believe they are back in the trauma situation and react as if they are in that situation. This is similar to the programmed triggers discussed in the conference and their programmed reactions.
An article written by Neil Brick describes this phenomenon: How Cues and Programming Work in Mind Control and Propaganda https://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/how-cues-and-programming-work-in-mind-control-and-propaganda/
“Programming is similar to this in several ways. A survivor may be tortured repeatedly until an new alter is created. This alter will be given a cue to let them know when to come out, this could be a smell, word, number, sound, color and so on. This cue is either paired with the alter’s creation and is given to the alter to listen for or to look for.”
The Grey Faction’s guest post makes other factually inaccurate statements.
The article calls these bizarre, irrational and paranoid claims. But are they?
1) “Your spouse or your lover is not to be trusted” as they may be used by the cult to control the victim. The reality is that many famous cults use this technique frequently. Some people are used to report back to the cult on their spouse. Others are used to remind people of what will happen if they leave the cult.
2) “using trauma-based mind-control to completely subjugate their victims, begin programming victims at the earliest possible age.” This is very possible. It is well known that very early childhood trauma can destabilize a victim and make them susceptible to attachment, anxiety, mood and trauma disorders.
3) In “the conference there was a….prohibition against touching one’s face.” Touching one’s face can be a triggered just like Pavlov’s dogs hearing a bell or a war veteran hearing a firecracker and having a flashback.
The guest post states: “Researchers have found that the average individual touches her/his face 3.6 times per hour.” It describes that this is a natural, human behavior.
This does not mean touching one’s face cannot be used a conditioned stimuli, just like a firecracker could trigger a flashback in a veteran or a bell could trigger Pavlov’s dogs. Anything can be a conditioned stimuli, including hand signals.
4) The guest post discusses that Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) may be intentionally induced as a means of mind-control. There is scientific evidence this is true. Journal articles and scientific research discussing this phenomenon are at https://ritualabuse.us
5) Cults may look for former members in different social and clinical settings. This has been verified by many trauma survivors. The article states “This served as a way to discredit medical professionals outside of” certain ritual abuse survivor groups. This is not true and no statements were made to this effect at the conference.
6) The guest post stated “Ritual Abuse was presented throughout the conference as the first place to start when investigating any personal ailment, rather than a last option after all avenues of modern medicine are exhausted.” This is totally false. Professionals recommend ruling out medical causes before looking at mental health causes. It is true that trauma may cause certain health symptoms. This is discussed and well researched in the very large study: Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/acestudy/
“Childhood experiences, both positive and negative, have a tremendous impact on future violence victimization and perpetration, and lifelong health and opportunity.”
7) The guest post states “Therapy is not a quest for truth, and the reality of what may or may not have happened is irrelevant.” The guest post states this is an absurd claim. A doctor may be more concerned about fixing a broken leg than finding out the cause of why it was broken and proving whether this cause is true or not. Another doctor may be more concerned about stopping an infection than finding out the cause. Therapy is the same. Symptom relief is often the most important goal of therapy. In other words, if a client suffers from depression, the goal is to decrease their depression symptoms. This may or may not entail discussing the symptoms’ causes and it is unlikely there would be an investigation of the reasons why the person is depressed.
8) The guest post states therapy should help “provid(e) mental health consumers with the cognitive tools to distinguish fantasy from reality.” The important question here is what is fantasy, and what is reality. Child abuse skeptics do not believe these ritual abuse crimes exist, and this belief is inaccurate. It would be inappropriate to promote this false skeptical belief.
9) The guest post states: “Whenever someone tried to ask about efforts to catch the cults and bring them to justice, the presenters turned it around by claiming that the cults are too secretive and far reaching to expose and that their primary focus as therapists and ritual abuse survivor advocates is to heal the victim rather than go after the abusers.” How would one go after the abusers if these crimes happened 30 or more years ago? The other problem is getting adequate support to bring perpetrators to justice. It sometimes took decades to bring the Catholic Church, certain Satanic groups and even Bill Cosby to justice, even though there were many victims and some came forward to authorities and were ignored. Of course, bringing the perpetrators to justice would be the best idea, but inaccurate skeptical articles like the guest post make this more difficult.
10) The guest post states; “[one is advised not to] try to understand why these cults do the horrible things they do.” Actually this was discussed at times during the conference. But more importantly, stopping these crimes and helping the victims of these crimes comes first.
The article repeats Doug Mesner’s (alias Lucien Greaves) claims about a vendor table at the 2009 Connecticut conference selling hats meant to block out electromagnetic signals. These were sold for health reasons. Doug did not tell conference coordinators he was coming to the 2009 conference to write an article, nor did he state he was a journalist. Since the conference was for rape survivors, the media was not allowed to attend to protect the conference attendees’ anonymity and safety.
S.M.A.R.T. replied to this in our “Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 6” article. https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-6-examiner-com-article/
Doug Mesner (alias Lucien Greaves) repeated the fact that one display table out of many at the conference had a hat (as well as many other items) used to protect the wearer from electromagnetism. He took this one thing totally out of proportion to attack the conference. He used this to attack and insult our conference and our work, ignoring the strong research base backing the reality of ritual abuse and the many presentations at our conference verifying the reality of ritual abuse. In the original article, he used the terms “lunacy” and “delusional assertions” to further insult the work of S.M.A.R.T. Mr. Mesner continues taking facts out of context and using these to disparage Neil Brick and S.M.A.R.T.
The guest post states: “Combating child sexual abuse and human trafficking are unquestionably noble causes.” Yet it appears that the Grey Faction and Doug Mesner spend much more time attacking child abuse survivors and their stories, than combating them.
Ellen Lacter wrote an interesting article a few years ago called “Common Forms of Misinformation and Tactics of Disinformation about Psychotherapy for Trauma Originating in Ritual Abuse and Mind Control” December 18, 2012.
This page on my website seeks to expose a number of common forms of misinformation and tactics of disinformation about psychotherapy for trauma originating in ritual abuse and mind control. Disinformation is distinguished from misinformation in that it is intentionally fraudulent. Misinformation and disinformation about ritual abuse and mind control trauma and psychotherapy to treat such trauma appear in both paper and electronic media, but are particularly abundant on the Internet on websites of individuals and organizations, bookseller reviews, blogs, newsletters, online encyclopedias, social networking sites, and e-group listservs…..Disclaimer: This page neither cites, quotes, names, nor alludes to any specific paper or electronic articles or statements by individual. Any similarity between examples of misinformation or disinformation used herein and actual articles or other statements is purely coincidental. http://endritualabuse.org/activism/misinfo/
The guest post then goes on to attack Neil Brick. It discussed how a complaint was filed against Neil Brick’s licensure in Massachusetts. This was filed by an out of state party that did not know Neil Brick professionally or personally. An previous online video discusses how the complaint was filed through one of their Grey Faction members and to his licensing board and they dismissed the complaint without prejudice.
The complaint was dismissed and Neil Brick was found fit to practice with sound moral character after a full year of review from several sources. SMART believes these type of complaints may be part of a harassment campaign to silence anti-child abuse advocates and helpers.
The guest post states: Neil Brick “had claimed that he’d committed rape and murder while in an altered state of mind.” Neil Brick does write about being forced as a small child to kill in a cult. This was against his will and many others have written about being forced to kill as children in cults and gangs. It is incorrect to extrapolate this further as an issue of moral character or adult competency. Children are victims forced to do things. We would not blame a child forced to hit another child by an adult. Nor would we blame or question the grown child now fully grown who was forced to do this.
The guest post discusses Neil Brick’s statement about cult members trying to look normal to find former cult members to possibly victimize. Most criminals and people who want to hurt others want to look normal. A thief would not have a sign stating “thief” on them. Likewise, one wanting to hurt a cult member or survivor would not want to indicate they are doing this. It makes sense to look for other indicators to check a person out. This is similar to a person who is a victim of violence as a child checking out a partner thoroughly to make sure they do not become a victim of domestic violence as an adult.
In conclusion, the guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction criticizes the strong research and theories of ritual abuse survivors and those with years of research, experience and education in the trauma field. (The members of the Grey Faction have unknown credentials and may not have the experience to accurately determine trauma theory and research.) The guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction presents inaccurate arguments, which are refuted in this article. The Grey Faction claims they are combating pseudoscience with rational inquiry, but this “rational inquiry” is actually predetermined opinion, bolstered by name calling, ad hominem attacks and insults. There is no real “rational inquiry” because there is no evidence that all of the facts were looked at neutrally to derive a conclusion. It appears the only facts considered were the ones that back their arguments. In its articles, the Grey Faction hides behind the name of science and rationality, when in reality it appears it is an advocacy organization used to discredit ritual abuse survivors realities’ and their resources.
Update: David Shurter has been repeatedly making factually inaccurate statements about S.M.A.R.T. and Neil Brick, some that are incredibly bizarre in nature. David Shurter makes the entirely false statement that a survivor was removed from the Survivorship conference. This is entirely untrue. No survivors were removed from this conference or any Survivorship or S.M.A.R.T. conference.
David Shurter makes another false statement that Survivorship allowed the person who infiltrated the conference and filmed speakers without permission to stay. This is also false. They were removed from the conference. Sadly, David Shurter states he agrees with Lucien Greaves and the Grey Faction about Neil Brick, a group that has attacked survivors and their supporters. David Shurter makes false statements about the North American Truth and Reconciliation Coalition (NATRC). David Shurter makes the false statement that Neil attacks other survivors’ conferences. This is totally untrue.
The reality is that David Shurter has attacked several survivor organizations viciously and many people in the survivor movement do not trust him at all anymore.
A good article to read about this is: Evolving as a Movement – Taking a Step Forward http://neilbrick.com/articles/evolving-as-a-movement-taking-a-step-forward/
“Survivors that publicly attack other child or ritual abuse advocates are not helping others nor are they helping the movement move forward. The child abuse “skeptics” watch these attacks, promote and encourage them and benefit from them. Survivor resources are only destroyed more by these attacks. Certain members of the survivor movement are sent to the movement to disable the movement in different ways. Some are programmed to attack others. Their goals (usually unknown to them) is to fragment the movement and destroy legitimate sources of education and support for survivors.
It appears that this may apply to David Shurter. David Shurter’s attacks have hurt the survivor movement. We recommend reading this article to find out more about this. Evolving as a Movement – Taking a Step Forward http://neilbrick.com/articles/evolving-as-a-movement-taking-a-step-forward/
2017 Update:
David Shurter has continued making false statements about Neil Brick and S.M.A.R.T. David Shurter writes "he and his group are deperately (sic) trying to associate me with them." This is absolutely false. S.M.A.R.T. and Neil Brick have made no efforts whatsoever to contact David Shurter, work with David Shurter in any way or "associate" with David Shurter. David Shurter closes his post with another insult toward Neil Brick "Brick can kiss my ass- but I don’t want his hairy monkey lips anywhere near me." David Shurter previously made additional erroneous statements about Neil Brick and his research. David Shurter stated "MANY secret groups- 20 of them or so are run by a man named Neil Brick- who are telling survivors that they can be mass programmed by hand signals- that bad guys are everywhere, behind every bush." There is absolutely no truth to this statement by David Shurter either. Neil nor anyone connected to S.M.A.R.T. has ever stated there are "bad guys everywhere" nor are there 20 secret groups run by Neil or anyone else he works with.
Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves (both aliases) is the co-founder of the Satanic Temple and one of the presenters for the Grey Faction. This article discusses the continuing attacks and online harassment of Neil Brick and S.M.A.R.T. by these groups and others.
This article represents the views of the S.M.A.R.T. Newsletter and this website.
Copied with permission from neilbrick.com
Original article is at: Reply to the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-satanic-temples-grey-faction-online-guest-post/
Recently another article attacking S.M.A.R.T., Neil Brick and the child abuse/ritual abuse field appeared on the Internet, called “The Satanic Temple sent observers to a Ritual Abuse survivors’ conference.” The article states it is a guest post and a collaboration produced by The Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction. S.M.A.R.T. has replied to the Grey Faction’s misinformation previously in this article: Rebuttal to the Grey Faction Lucien Greaves presentation about SMART and additional Grey Faction information about Neil Brick https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-grey-faction-lucien-greaves-presentation-about-smart-and-additional-grey-faction-information-about-neil-brick/
The Grey Faction’s views of the ritual abuse field and recovered memory are inaccurate.
Accurate scientific information is at:
Proof the Ritual Abuse Exists https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/
Ritual Abuse References http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/
Research https://ritualabuse.us/research/
Recovered Memories https://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-corroboration-rates/
Please don’t forget to read the conclusion at the end of the article.
Update: Continued bullying, online harassment, name calling and personal attacks are occurring in the comment section under the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post. New aliases believed to belong to Doug Mesner/Lucien Greaves (also aliases) continue these comments. These comments continue to attack Neil Brick for not allowing hands to go to the face which could be hand signals at the conference.
One poster (defending survivors) in the comment section wrote: “Thank you for allowing my clarification of hand signals to be posted on the website. These signals function as post-hypnotic suggestions, as anyone who is familiar with hypnosis will know. You might also remember Pavlov’s dog, who salivated at the sound of a bell. This is basic conditioning, stimulus-response. Child traffickers teach such signals to the children they traffic and they condition these children to respond immediately in particular ways.”
Hand signals are also discussed below.
Yet commenters below the article continue to make fun off and insult Neil Brick for this conference guideline.
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The guest post has a video of Neil Brick, recorded without permission at a private conference where video and audio recording is not permitted to protect the anonymity of the attendees, who were rape and trauma victims. It appears the person who recorded the video of Neil Brick misrepresented their reasons for attending the conference and did not tell the truth about their personal information. The video falsely insults Neil Brick by using the word paranoid to describe his presentation. Neil presents material backed by research during the video. The video discusses the use of hand signals to trigger certain mind states.
It is well known in the scientific field that triggers or certain stimuli can trigger mind states and/or thought patterns. In the modern era, Pavlov did extensive research on classical conditioning, where a conditioned stimuli produces a conditioned response. His dogs would salivate when they heard a bell without the presence of food. More complex conditioning can be done on human beings.
It is well known that PTSD flashbacks can be triggered by certain stimuli (like sounds, smells or colors) in veterans, trauma and accident survivors. These survivors may totally believe they are back in the trauma situation and react as if they are in that situation. This is similar to the programmed triggers discussed in the conference and their programmed reactions.
An article written by Neil Brick describes this phenomenon: How Cues and Programming Work in Mind Control and Propaganda https://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/how-cues-and-programming-work-in-mind-control-and-propaganda/
“Programming is similar to this in several ways. A survivor may be tortured repeatedly until an new alter is created. This alter will be given a cue to let them know when to come out, this could be a smell, word, number, sound, color and so on. This cue is either paired with the alter’s creation and is given to the alter to listen for or to look for.”
The Grey Faction’s guest post makes other factually inaccurate statements.
The article calls these bizarre, irrational and paranoid claims. But are they?
1) “Your spouse or your lover is not to be trusted” as they may be used by the cult to control the victim. The reality is that many famous cults use this technique frequently. Some people are used to report back to the cult on their spouse. Others are used to remind people of what will happen if they leave the cult.
2) “using trauma-based mind-control to completely subjugate their victims, begin programming victims at the earliest possible age.” This is very possible. It is well known that very early childhood trauma can destabilize a victim and make them susceptible to attachment, anxiety, mood and trauma disorders.
3) In “the conference there was a….prohibition against touching one’s face.” Touching one’s face can be a triggered just like Pavlov’s dogs hearing a bell or a war veteran hearing a firecracker and having a flashback.
The guest post states: “Researchers have found that the average individual touches her/his face 3.6 times per hour.” It describes that this is a natural, human behavior.
This does not mean touching one’s face cannot be used a conditioned stimuli, just like a firecracker could trigger a flashback in a veteran or a bell could trigger Pavlov’s dogs. Anything can be a conditioned stimuli, including hand signals.
4) The guest post discusses that Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) may be intentionally induced as a means of mind-control. There is scientific evidence this is true. Journal articles and scientific research discussing this phenomenon are at https://ritualabuse.us
5) Cults may look for former members in different social and clinical settings. This has been verified by many trauma survivors. The article states “This served as a way to discredit medical professionals outside of” certain ritual abuse survivor groups. This is not true and no statements were made to this effect at the conference.
6) The guest post stated “Ritual Abuse was presented throughout the conference as the first place to start when investigating any personal ailment, rather than a last option after all avenues of modern medicine are exhausted.” This is totally false. Professionals recommend ruling out medical causes before looking at mental health causes. It is true that trauma may cause certain health symptoms. This is discussed and well researched in the very large study: Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/acestudy/
“Childhood experiences, both positive and negative, have a tremendous impact on future violence victimization and perpetration, and lifelong health and opportunity.”
7) The guest post states “Therapy is not a quest for truth, and the reality of what may or may not have happened is irrelevant.” The guest post states this is an absurd claim. A doctor may be more concerned about fixing a broken leg than finding out the cause of why it was broken and proving whether this cause is true or not. Another doctor may be more concerned about stopping an infection than finding out the cause. Therapy is the same. Symptom relief is often the most important goal of therapy. In other words, if a client suffers from depression, the goal is to decrease their depression symptoms. This may or may not entail discussing the symptoms’ causes and it is unlikely there would be an investigation of the reasons why the person is depressed.
8) The guest post states therapy should help “provid(e) mental health consumers with the cognitive tools to distinguish fantasy from reality.” The important question here is what is fantasy, and what is reality. Child abuse skeptics do not believe these ritual abuse crimes exist, and this belief is inaccurate. It would be inappropriate to promote this false skeptical belief.
9) The guest post states: “Whenever someone tried to ask about efforts to catch the cults and bring them to justice, the presenters turned it around by claiming that the cults are too secretive and far reaching to expose and that their primary focus as therapists and ritual abuse survivor advocates is to heal the victim rather than go after the abusers.” How would one go after the abusers if these crimes happened 30 or more years ago? The other problem is getting adequate support to bring perpetrators to justice. It sometimes took decades to bring the Catholic Church, certain Satanic groups and even Bill Cosby to justice, even though there were many victims and some came forward to authorities and were ignored. Of course, bringing the perpetrators to justice would be the best idea, but inaccurate skeptical articles like the guest post make this more difficult.
10) The guest post states; “[one is advised not to] try to understand why these cults do the horrible things they do.” Actually this was discussed at times during the conference. But more importantly, stopping these crimes and helping the victims of these crimes comes first.
The article repeats Doug Mesner’s (alias Lucien Greaves) claims about a vendor table at the 2009 Connecticut conference selling hats meant to block out electromagnetic signals. These were sold for health reasons. Doug did not tell conference coordinators he was coming to the 2009 conference to write an article, nor did he state he was a journalist. Since the conference was for rape survivors, the media was not allowed to attend to protect the conference attendees’ anonymity and safety.
S.M.A.R.T. replied to this in our “Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update 6” article. https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-6-examiner-com-article/
Doug Mesner (alias Lucien Greaves) repeated the fact that one display table out of many at the conference had a hat (as well as many other items) used to protect the wearer from electromagnetism. He took this one thing totally out of proportion to attack the conference. He used this to attack and insult our conference and our work, ignoring the strong research base backing the reality of ritual abuse and the many presentations at our conference verifying the reality of ritual abuse. In the original article, he used the terms “lunacy” and “delusional assertions” to further insult the work of S.M.A.R.T. Mr. Mesner continues taking facts out of context and using these to disparage Neil Brick and S.M.A.R.T.
The guest post states: “Combating child sexual abuse and human trafficking are unquestionably noble causes.” Yet it appears that the Grey Faction and Doug Mesner spend much more time attacking child abuse survivors and their stories, than combating them.
Ellen Lacter wrote an interesting article a few years ago called “Common Forms of Misinformation and Tactics of Disinformation about Psychotherapy for Trauma Originating in Ritual Abuse and Mind Control” December 18, 2012.
This page on my website seeks to expose a number of common forms of misinformation and tactics of disinformation about psychotherapy for trauma originating in ritual abuse and mind control. Disinformation is distinguished from misinformation in that it is intentionally fraudulent. Misinformation and disinformation about ritual abuse and mind control trauma and psychotherapy to treat such trauma appear in both paper and electronic media, but are particularly abundant on the Internet on websites of individuals and organizations, bookseller reviews, blogs, newsletters, online encyclopedias, social networking sites, and e-group listservs…..Disclaimer: This page neither cites, quotes, names, nor alludes to any specific paper or electronic articles or statements by individual. Any similarity between examples of misinformation or disinformation used herein and actual articles or other statements is purely coincidental. http://endritualabuse.org/activism/misinfo/
The guest post then goes on to attack Neil Brick. It discussed how a complaint was filed against Neil Brick’s licensure in Massachusetts. This was filed by an out of state party that did not know Neil Brick professionally or personally. An previous online video discusses how the complaint was filed through one of their Grey Faction members and to his licensing board and they dismissed the complaint without prejudice.
The complaint was dismissed and Neil Brick was found fit to practice with sound moral character after a full year of review from several sources. SMART believes these type of complaints may be part of a harassment campaign to silence anti-child abuse advocates and helpers.
The guest post states: Neil Brick “had claimed that he’d committed rape and murder while in an altered state of mind.” Neil Brick does write about being forced as a small child to kill in a cult. This was against his will and many others have written about being forced to kill as children in cults and gangs. It is incorrect to extrapolate this further as an issue of moral character or adult competency. Children are victims forced to do things. We would not blame a child forced to hit another child by an adult. Nor would we blame or question the grown child now fully grown who was forced to do this.
The guest post discusses Neil Brick’s statement about cult members trying to look normal to find former cult members to possibly victimize. Most criminals and people who want to hurt others want to look normal. A thief would not have a sign stating “thief” on them. Likewise, one wanting to hurt a cult member or survivor would not want to indicate they are doing this. It makes sense to look for other indicators to check a person out. This is similar to a person who is a victim of violence as a child checking out a partner thoroughly to make sure they do not become a victim of domestic violence as an adult.
In conclusion, the guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction criticizes the strong research and theories of ritual abuse survivors and those with years of research, experience and education in the trauma field. (The members of the Grey Faction have unknown credentials and may not have the experience to accurately determine trauma theory and research.) The guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction presents inaccurate arguments, which are refuted in this article. The Grey Faction claims they are combating pseudoscience with rational inquiry, but this “rational inquiry” is actually predetermined opinion, bolstered by name calling, ad hominem attacks and insults. There is no real “rational inquiry” because there is no evidence that all of the facts were looked at neutrally to derive a conclusion. It appears the only facts considered were the ones that back their arguments. In its articles, the Grey Faction hides behind the name of science and rationality, when in reality it appears it is an advocacy organization used to discredit ritual abuse survivors realities’ and their resources.
Update: David Shurter has been repeatedly making factually inaccurate statements about S.M.A.R.T. and Neil Brick, some that are incredibly bizarre in nature. David Shurter makes the entirely false statement that a survivor was removed from the Survivorship conference. This is entirely untrue. No survivors were removed from this conference or any Survivorship or S.M.A.R.T. conference.
David Shurter makes another false statement that Survivorship allowed the person who infiltrated the conference and filmed speakers without permission to stay. This is also false. They were removed from the conference. Sadly, David Shurter states he agrees with Lucien Greaves and the Grey Faction about Neil Brick, a group that has attacked survivors and their supporters. David Shurter makes false statements about the North American Truth and Reconciliation Coalition (NATRC). David Shurter makes the false statement that Neil attacks other survivors’ conferences. This is totally untrue.
The reality is that David Shurter has attacked several survivor organizations viciously and many people in the survivor movement do not trust him at all anymore.
A good article to read about this is: Evolving as a Movement – Taking a Step Forward http://neilbrick.com/articles/evolving-as-a-movement-taking-a-step-forward/
“Survivors that publicly attack other child or ritual abuse advocates are not helping others nor are they helping the movement move forward. The child abuse “skeptics” watch these attacks, promote and encourage them and benefit from them. Survivor resources are only destroyed more by these attacks. Certain members of the survivor movement are sent to the movement to disable the movement in different ways. Some are programmed to attack others. Their goals (usually unknown to them) is to fragment the movement and destroy legitimate sources of education and support for survivors.
It appears that this may apply to David Shurter. David Shurter’s attacks have hurt the survivor movement. We recommend reading this article to find out more about this. Evolving as a Movement – Taking a Step Forward http://neilbrick.com/articles/evolving-as-a-movement-taking-a-step-forward/
2017 Update:
David Shurter has continued making false statements about Neil Brick and S.M.A.R.T. David Shurter writes "he and his group are deperately (sic) trying to associate me with them." This is absolutely false. S.M.A.R.T. and Neil Brick have made no efforts whatsoever to contact David Shurter, work with David Shurter in any way or "associate" with David Shurter. David Shurter closes his post with another insult toward Neil Brick "Brick can kiss my ass- but I don’t want his hairy monkey lips anywhere near me." David Shurter previously made additional erroneous statements about Neil Brick and his research. David Shurter stated "MANY secret groups- 20 of them or so are run by a man named Neil Brick- who are telling survivors that they can be mass programmed by hand signals- that bad guys are everywhere, behind every bush." There is absolutely no truth to this statement by David Shurter either. Neil nor anyone connected to S.M.A.R.T. has ever stated there are "bad guys everywhere" nor are there 20 secret groups run by Neil or anyone else he works with.
Monday, June 13, 2016
Reply to the Grey Faction’s Petition to Revoke the License of Neil Brick
Recently the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction has put up a petition to revoke the license of Neil Brick.
The petition states that The Allied Board of Health Professionals licensure division, having previously received a complaint…did nothing. The fact is that no violations were found and no disciplinary actions were taken. We believe that this new letter is part of the continued actions of harassment against Neil Brick and those that help child and ritual abuse survivors.
The petition starts with a video taken by a person who used a fake name and false motives to gain access to the Survivorship Conference in Oakland in May 2016. He took the video of Neil Brick at the conference without permission. As per an article at the website patheos, The Satanic Temple claims they sent observers to a Ritual Abuse survivors’ conference. This video was originally posted without permission at the patheos website (later removed) and posted by the Grey Faction at youtube without Neil’s permission.
The petition misinterprets the video and the problems with hand signals. Cult hand signals are used by many cults.
Here is an explanation:
These signals function as post-hypnotic suggestions, as anyone who is familiar with hypnosis will know. You might also remember Pavlov’s dog, who salivated at the sound of a bell. This is basic conditioning, stimulus-response. Child traffickers teach such signals to the children they traffic and they condition these children to respond immediately in particular ways and are used in many cults to control members.
Our reply to the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post (at the website mentioned above) can be found here:
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-satanic-temples-grey-faction-online-guest-post/
This article discusses the continued online harassment of Neil Brick by this group.
The petition states there is a potential danger to health care consumers. But no such danger is proven in the letter or anywhere else. This is another false statement made by the Grey Faction without proof or evidence. The petition states Neil Brick has a dangerous state-of-mind and unsubstantiated, delusional beliefs. This is pure conjecture and unproven. There is no real evidence presented anywhere of this and Neil’s evaluation during the filing of the previous complaint found there were no problems at all with Neil’s mental state. Neil’s beliefs are clearly substantiated with research at https://ritualabuse.us The use of the prejorative terms in the petition mentioned above are unproven and are used to mischaracterize Neil Brick and his work.
The petition links to several articles at the https://ritualabuse.us website. The petition mischaracterizes the content of these articles. Neil as a child was forced to kill people in a cult. He was brainwashed in this group as a small child. Many cults today program their members to join and not leave and to follow them, asking them to commit acts they would not do outside of the cult. This is a well researched topic. The letter discusses torturing fetuses, but the link in the letter does not discuss this, only discussing torture in early childhood, which could obviously effect a child. There is scientific evidence that certain groups use the torture of children at a young age to cause dissociation and dissociative identity disorder.
The petition states that this child abuse research is directly relevant to Neil Brick’s Mental Health Care practice. But this is not true at all. Neil Brick’s and S.M.A.R.T.’s research is backed by cited research, articles and journal sources at the https://ritualabuse.us website. Neil as a therapist never brings his outside life into his therapy practice, by setting appropriate therapeutic boundaries like any therapist or professional would.
The letter mentions violation of ethical standards and code of ethics, yet there is no evidence that Neil Brick has ever violated any ethical code or standard in his practice. The letter goes on to state that Neil Brick’s public lectures printed articles, etc. in no way represent appropriate counseling literature. But they aren’t meant as counseling literature. The letter states that Neil Brick’s public lectures printed articles and so on are not based on proper, scientific, or a rational assessment of available, empirical data, Of course this is pure conjecture and opinion also. The scientific research at the website https://ritualabuse.us proves this to be incorrect.
The petition states “While we are not privy to records that indicate methods of treatment employed in Neil Brick’s practice.” We believe this is one of the most important parts of the letter. There is no evidence there are any problems with any methods of treatment Neil uses. A full year of investigation by the board after a similar complaint those connected to the Grey Faction filed did not find any problems either. The letter continues to attack Neil claiming Neil “lacks a solid rational foundation” discussing the evaluation of scientific evidence. This is conjecture again and unproven. Neil repeatedly cites a wide variety of scientific sources at his website backing his conclusions. The letter discuss the Extreme Abuse Survey, This survey was only meant to be a preliminary study and is this is mentioned in their research. However the data found in the study is important and definitely not “worthless” as the letter mentions.
The petition mentions personal public statements made. Neil always clearly states the conferences and presentations are not meant as therapy or treatment. Previously there were a few clinician conferences where clinicians discussed important research and theories about severe abuse and trauma.
The petition mentions Neil Brick promotes implausible ideas, yet Neil’s ideas are backed by research and journal articles. If the Grey Faction decides to ignore or disbelieve this research, this does not mean Neil’s research is implausible. As previously stated, Neil does not and would never promote his research in his role as a licensed mental health care professional as this would be a clear violation of professional boundaries.
In our opinion, this is simply part of a continued pattern of on and offline harassment against Neil Brick and others who are trying to get the research out about child and ritual abuse and trauma.
This is from our website replying to the guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction:
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-satanic-temples-grey-faction-online-guest-post/
In conclusion, the guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction criticizes the strong research and theories of ritual abuse survivors and those with years of research, experience and education in the trauma field. (The members of the Grey Faction have unknown credentials and may not have the experience to accurately determine trauma theory and research.) The guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction presents inaccurate arguments, which are refuted in this article. The Grey Faction claims they are combating pseudoscience with rational inquiry, but this rational inquiry is actually predetermined opinion, bolstered by name calling, ad hominem attacks and insults. There is no real rational inquiry because there is no evidence that all of the facts were looked at neutrally to derive a conclusion. It appears the only facts considered were the ones that back their arguments. In its articles, the Grey Faction hides behind the name of science and rationality, when in reality it appears it is an advocacy organization used to discredit ritual abuse survivors realities’ and their resources.
Neil Brick and S.M.A.R.T. ask child abuse survivors and their advocates to continue publishing their research and not be silenced by on and offline harassment.
The petition states that The Allied Board of Health Professionals licensure division, having previously received a complaint…did nothing. The fact is that no violations were found and no disciplinary actions were taken. We believe that this new letter is part of the continued actions of harassment against Neil Brick and those that help child and ritual abuse survivors.
The petition starts with a video taken by a person who used a fake name and false motives to gain access to the Survivorship Conference in Oakland in May 2016. He took the video of Neil Brick at the conference without permission. As per an article at the website patheos, The Satanic Temple claims they sent observers to a Ritual Abuse survivors’ conference. This video was originally posted without permission at the patheos website (later removed) and posted by the Grey Faction at youtube without Neil’s permission.
The petition misinterprets the video and the problems with hand signals. Cult hand signals are used by many cults.
Here is an explanation:
These signals function as post-hypnotic suggestions, as anyone who is familiar with hypnosis will know. You might also remember Pavlov’s dog, who salivated at the sound of a bell. This is basic conditioning, stimulus-response. Child traffickers teach such signals to the children they traffic and they condition these children to respond immediately in particular ways and are used in many cults to control members.
Our reply to the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction online guest post (at the website mentioned above) can be found here:
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-satanic-temples-grey-faction-online-guest-post/
This article discusses the continued online harassment of Neil Brick by this group.
The petition states there is a potential danger to health care consumers. But no such danger is proven in the letter or anywhere else. This is another false statement made by the Grey Faction without proof or evidence. The petition states Neil Brick has a dangerous state-of-mind and unsubstantiated, delusional beliefs. This is pure conjecture and unproven. There is no real evidence presented anywhere of this and Neil’s evaluation during the filing of the previous complaint found there were no problems at all with Neil’s mental state. Neil’s beliefs are clearly substantiated with research at https://ritualabuse.us The use of the prejorative terms in the petition mentioned above are unproven and are used to mischaracterize Neil Brick and his work.
The petition links to several articles at the https://ritualabuse.us website. The petition mischaracterizes the content of these articles. Neil as a child was forced to kill people in a cult. He was brainwashed in this group as a small child. Many cults today program their members to join and not leave and to follow them, asking them to commit acts they would not do outside of the cult. This is a well researched topic. The letter discusses torturing fetuses, but the link in the letter does not discuss this, only discussing torture in early childhood, which could obviously effect a child. There is scientific evidence that certain groups use the torture of children at a young age to cause dissociation and dissociative identity disorder.
The petition states that this child abuse research is directly relevant to Neil Brick’s Mental Health Care practice. But this is not true at all. Neil Brick’s and S.M.A.R.T.’s research is backed by cited research, articles and journal sources at the https://ritualabuse.us website. Neil as a therapist never brings his outside life into his therapy practice, by setting appropriate therapeutic boundaries like any therapist or professional would.
The letter mentions violation of ethical standards and code of ethics, yet there is no evidence that Neil Brick has ever violated any ethical code or standard in his practice. The letter goes on to state that Neil Brick’s public lectures printed articles, etc. in no way represent appropriate counseling literature. But they aren’t meant as counseling literature. The letter states that Neil Brick’s public lectures printed articles and so on are not based on proper, scientific, or a rational assessment of available, empirical data, Of course this is pure conjecture and opinion also. The scientific research at the website https://ritualabuse.us proves this to be incorrect.
The petition states “While we are not privy to records that indicate methods of treatment employed in Neil Brick’s practice.” We believe this is one of the most important parts of the letter. There is no evidence there are any problems with any methods of treatment Neil uses. A full year of investigation by the board after a similar complaint those connected to the Grey Faction filed did not find any problems either. The letter continues to attack Neil claiming Neil “lacks a solid rational foundation” discussing the evaluation of scientific evidence. This is conjecture again and unproven. Neil repeatedly cites a wide variety of scientific sources at his website backing his conclusions. The letter discuss the Extreme Abuse Survey, This survey was only meant to be a preliminary study and is this is mentioned in their research. However the data found in the study is important and definitely not “worthless” as the letter mentions.
The petition mentions personal public statements made. Neil always clearly states the conferences and presentations are not meant as therapy or treatment. Previously there were a few clinician conferences where clinicians discussed important research and theories about severe abuse and trauma.
The petition mentions Neil Brick promotes implausible ideas, yet Neil’s ideas are backed by research and journal articles. If the Grey Faction decides to ignore or disbelieve this research, this does not mean Neil’s research is implausible. As previously stated, Neil does not and would never promote his research in his role as a licensed mental health care professional as this would be a clear violation of professional boundaries.
In our opinion, this is simply part of a continued pattern of on and offline harassment against Neil Brick and others who are trying to get the research out about child and ritual abuse and trauma.
This is from our website replying to the guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction:
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-the-satanic-temples-grey-faction-online-guest-post/
In conclusion, the guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction criticizes the strong research and theories of ritual abuse survivors and those with years of research, experience and education in the trauma field. (The members of the Grey Faction have unknown credentials and may not have the experience to accurately determine trauma theory and research.) The guest post by the Satanic Temple’s Grey Faction presents inaccurate arguments, which are refuted in this article. The Grey Faction claims they are combating pseudoscience with rational inquiry, but this rational inquiry is actually predetermined opinion, bolstered by name calling, ad hominem attacks and insults. There is no real rational inquiry because there is no evidence that all of the facts were looked at neutrally to derive a conclusion. It appears the only facts considered were the ones that back their arguments. In its articles, the Grey Faction hides behind the name of science and rationality, when in reality it appears it is an advocacy organization used to discredit ritual abuse survivors realities’ and their resources.
Neil Brick and S.M.A.R.T. ask child abuse survivors and their advocates to continue publishing their research and not be silenced by on and offline harassment.
Tuesday, October 20, 2015
The Battle to Stop Ritual Abuse
Neil Brick’s conference transcript from the 2015 Annual Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control Conference
Please use caution while reading this presentation. It may be triggering. All accusations are alleged. The conference and this transcript are educational and not intended as therapy or treatment.
The Battle to Stop Ritual Abuse
For over 25 years, survivors and their advocates have worked to stop ritual abuse by educating the general public about these crimes. Through an intense struggle this research has been made public and survivors have been helped. Exposing the backlash and its true motives and how their work continues to promote social injustice will be discussed in this presentation.
Neil Brick is a survivor of ritual abuse and mind control. His work continues to educate the public about child abuse, trauma and ritual abuse crimes. His child abuse and ritual abuse newsletter S.M.A.R.T. has been published for over 20 years. http://neilbrick.com
(Please note: This article is strictly the opinion of the author and not necessarily the opinion of the SMART newsletter or the webmaster.)
The Battle to Stop Ritual Abuse
For over 25 years, survivors and their advocates have worked to stop ritual abuse by educating the general public about these crimes. Through an intense struggle this research has been made public and survivors have been helped.
A backlash continues, covering up crimes against children and protecting a hierarchical and unjust social structure that exists by propagandizing and mind controlling its members. Exposing the backlash and its true motives and how their work continues to promote social injustice will be discussed in this presentation.
For many years, we have fought to stop ritual abuse crimes and educate people about these crimes. But even today, the backlash continues, misrepresenting the research, hiding important data, harassing anti-child abuse advocates and repeating the same lies about many of the child abuse and day care cases of the past. I have covered these topics in many of my prior speeches and all of this information is available on the Internet at this website.
Today, I will speaking about why we have been so viciously attacked and why there are repeated attempts to misrepresent and cover up our work.
Our work exposes those that attempt to control social thinking patterns. If our realities are seen as accurate by society, then this exposes the lies that our present society is built on.
Mind control and propaganda exist in every part of our society. From how people dress, to how people speak, to how people believe.
There are many lies that most in our society believe in. These lies are taught to children at an early age.
These are some of the lies people are taught:
1) We live in a democracy – The reality is the media is controlled by a few companies and the information people receive is controlled by these same companies. It is rare that people would receive any different information. All one has to do to prove this is to listen to conversations at work or at a social event. Many people will be talking about the same thing and at times quoting the ideas of the local media sources.
It is impossible to have a democracy when few think for themselves. A democracy needs a free flow of information, which does not exist in our society or most societies in the world.
Ritual abuse is a more extreme example of how the free flow of information is denied. Survivors live in families and social systems that trap them and make it difficult for them to get information about cults and mind control. A survivor may move from a cult family to a cult marriage or neighborhood or job where cult members live.
2) Religion helps people grow – The reality is that this is rare. When one chooses a religion, they give up their own freedom of thought. It is better to develop your own ideas and think for yourself than to give up your intellectual and spiritual freedom to someone else’s ideas. Often the spiritual or religious system is a system of mind control. People that are unaware of mind control techniques and that are unfamiliar of the feeling of being in a trance are prone to be victimized by a religion. Be aware of the feeling of going into a trance and leave the area you are in. One mind control technique religious leaders and other groups use are hypnotizing people by moving their hand at the bottom of a person’s visual field. Internet pages may put ads on the sides or bottoms of ones visual field.
Ritual abuse has its own hidden spiritual system, that people believe in their cult alters. These believes may become more conscious in those that follow dark spiritual systems.
3) There is a god – The reality is that god is a concept that was and is used to control people.
It is better to develop one’s own concept of the world than to read a book or go to a house of worship to get one’s entire spiritual system from.
Ritual abuse systems may be hidden in a variety of different religions. Hammond, LA is an example of a ritual abuse system being hidden in a Christian religion. Many occult and dark religions have been found to have ritual abuse systems hidden in them also.
4) Soldiers in our society – the sad reality is that soldiers are often unknowingly working to protect corporate interests in other parts of the world. They like most of society are indoctrinated into a social system that teaches them that war is okay if our government says so. They are trained to follow orders in their basic training that some have compared to mind control systems. This is not to state that soldiers are bad people. They are often good people that have been indoctrinated by our social system.
Ritual abuse victims are like soldiers in some ways. They have roles they follow due to their indoctrination. Child soldiers are an example of soldiers being indoctrinated in a cult manner to fight and kill.
5) Capitalism is a beneficial economic system – the truth is that it is impossible to have a fair and equal society in a society where the most important thing is to make money. The focus to help others is lost. As we see in our own society, over time the rich get richer and the poor suffer greatly. This systems causes immense suffering and death for those unable to survive in it.
Ritual abuse victims are part of this system. They often make money for the cults as sex slaves, prostitutes or bringing in others to do this kind of work.
6) The media presents information fairly and equally – The reality is that the media often does not tell the truth and packages misinformation as the truth, repeating this as propaganda until people do not believe the truth. A good example of this is any of the mentioned points or our own topic, ritual abuse. The reality is that ritual abuse and cults exist and have existed for years. The media refuses to present our stories and the research around this, repeating the same lies about McMartin and other child abuse and day care cases. We have thousands of research articles refuting media lies, yet it is impossible to get this information into the media.
7) People believe they are not mind controlled – the reality is that everyone is, the question is how much are they mind controlled. Gender roles are a good example of mind control that almost everyone follows. TV is an example of a mind control device. People are put into a trance and become very susceptible to mind control and social programming. Religion has many mind control techniques, including certain types of prayer, fear programming and repetition. Many sales techniques are based on mind control techniques. Car sales techniques are a good example of mind control techniques. The way churches and malls are set up are meant to disorient one and make one more susceptible to mind control.
Ritual abuse survivors, even those in recovery for years do not realize they are still mind controlled, nor do they realize when they are being accessed by others. They fall for emotional appeals. If someone asks you lots of questions about yourself when you are tired or more relaxed, they could be using mind control techniques to get more information about you.
The way to heal is to realize that anyone can be mind controlled. And those that are not familiar with mind control, social programming and propaganda techniques are being mind controlled.
Break through all programming. If you don’t, you may be susceptible to being revictimized by cult and ritual abuse mind control.
How do we break through programming?
1) Know when you are being mind controlled. If you are feeling spacey or dissociated, this means you may be susceptible to mind control. Try to get away from wherever you are. Mind control methods can include any of these media misused : TV (often misused), music, repetition, prayer, certain phrases, tone and the pacing of speech. Some religious and cult leaders know how to use these techniques and will use them. Hand movements can also be used to hypnotize people. Learn how different tones and types of music can be used to put one into a trance and avoid these.
2) A person that wants to mind control or access you will wait until you are susceptible. They know people want to connect to others. Love bombing is an overt form of mind control cults use. At a conference, people may wait until you are tired, be careful of evening and second day conversations, especially the end of conferences when people are tired. People that want to access you will ask a lot of questions. Cult people will want specific details, like demographic and other personal information. Trust your gut. If you feel uneasy when someone is asking you something, you don’t need to tell them. You can politely say “I prefer not to discuss that.” A cult person may lead up to these questions with more general details, even divulging their own info so you give them yours. Again, go with your gut feelings around this. If you aren’t sure, you don’t have to say anything.
3) People misrepresent themselves. Rarely, will a person admit they are using mind control techniques on you. They may appear to be the nicest, friendliest or shyest person in the world. They may state they want to help you. The religious leaders now accused of raping 100s of children were often well loved charismatic people. On message boards, these people will often appear to be very helpful. When reading their messages, consider how they feel. Are they sincere or do they feel phony.
4) Don’t trust those hiding behind undefined philosophies. They may talk about how they are healing others, or ask you to listen to your inner voice. They may ask you to find the god within you or something like that. These philosophies may be new age, occult or Christian based philosophies. Mind controllers will find which philosophy or approach works best with you. Then they will use it.
5) Mind controllers will use shock techniques. These get more attention. You will especially see these often in the media. Or they may use an emotional appeal. Their writing will have strong emotional words in it, that will seem overdone and out of place. Shock techniques and strong emotions make one more susceptible to mind control.
6) Repetition is another technique. The media will often repeat the same message repeatedly. The denialists of ritual abuse crimes use these techniques.
7) Be careful of those that deny they are ritual abuse survivors when it appears they are. These people may have a role in social situations, like gathering information or finding out more about people’s programming and personal information.
8) A person with less mind control or not mind controlled will feel more real. They won’t feel like part of a person with a mask. They won’t discuss how they want to save the world or heal in an undefined way. You will be able to have a real conversation with them and realize they are really there. As you work hard to recover with therapy and breaking through traumas, you will be able to notice this in others more.
Why is this all important?
Living without mind control is like living without addictions. Everything looks, feels and becomes real. The fog disappears. One’s memory improves. One can truly help others. Expect to encounter resistant. Those that are not mind controlled are not liked by cults or those that control society to profit off of others’ work. They will try to silence you. Remember “your silence will NOT protect you.” They will work to keep your message from reaching others. Don’t let this happen. Speak out and help others heal from mind control.
Remember, a free life is the best life.
Please use caution while reading this presentation. It may be triggering. All accusations are alleged. The conference and this transcript are educational and not intended as therapy or treatment.
The Battle to Stop Ritual Abuse
For over 25 years, survivors and their advocates have worked to stop ritual abuse by educating the general public about these crimes. Through an intense struggle this research has been made public and survivors have been helped. Exposing the backlash and its true motives and how their work continues to promote social injustice will be discussed in this presentation.
Neil Brick is a survivor of ritual abuse and mind control. His work continues to educate the public about child abuse, trauma and ritual abuse crimes. His child abuse and ritual abuse newsletter S.M.A.R.T. has been published for over 20 years. http://neilbrick.com
(Please note: This article is strictly the opinion of the author and not necessarily the opinion of the SMART newsletter or the webmaster.)
The Battle to Stop Ritual Abuse
For over 25 years, survivors and their advocates have worked to stop ritual abuse by educating the general public about these crimes. Through an intense struggle this research has been made public and survivors have been helped.
A backlash continues, covering up crimes against children and protecting a hierarchical and unjust social structure that exists by propagandizing and mind controlling its members. Exposing the backlash and its true motives and how their work continues to promote social injustice will be discussed in this presentation.
For many years, we have fought to stop ritual abuse crimes and educate people about these crimes. But even today, the backlash continues, misrepresenting the research, hiding important data, harassing anti-child abuse advocates and repeating the same lies about many of the child abuse and day care cases of the past. I have covered these topics in many of my prior speeches and all of this information is available on the Internet at this website.
Today, I will speaking about why we have been so viciously attacked and why there are repeated attempts to misrepresent and cover up our work.
Our work exposes those that attempt to control social thinking patterns. If our realities are seen as accurate by society, then this exposes the lies that our present society is built on.
Mind control and propaganda exist in every part of our society. From how people dress, to how people speak, to how people believe.
There are many lies that most in our society believe in. These lies are taught to children at an early age.
These are some of the lies people are taught:
1) We live in a democracy – The reality is the media is controlled by a few companies and the information people receive is controlled by these same companies. It is rare that people would receive any different information. All one has to do to prove this is to listen to conversations at work or at a social event. Many people will be talking about the same thing and at times quoting the ideas of the local media sources.
It is impossible to have a democracy when few think for themselves. A democracy needs a free flow of information, which does not exist in our society or most societies in the world.
Ritual abuse is a more extreme example of how the free flow of information is denied. Survivors live in families and social systems that trap them and make it difficult for them to get information about cults and mind control. A survivor may move from a cult family to a cult marriage or neighborhood or job where cult members live.
2) Religion helps people grow – The reality is that this is rare. When one chooses a religion, they give up their own freedom of thought. It is better to develop your own ideas and think for yourself than to give up your intellectual and spiritual freedom to someone else’s ideas. Often the spiritual or religious system is a system of mind control. People that are unaware of mind control techniques and that are unfamiliar of the feeling of being in a trance are prone to be victimized by a religion. Be aware of the feeling of going into a trance and leave the area you are in. One mind control technique religious leaders and other groups use are hypnotizing people by moving their hand at the bottom of a person’s visual field. Internet pages may put ads on the sides or bottoms of ones visual field.
Ritual abuse has its own hidden spiritual system, that people believe in their cult alters. These believes may become more conscious in those that follow dark spiritual systems.
3) There is a god – The reality is that god is a concept that was and is used to control people.
It is better to develop one’s own concept of the world than to read a book or go to a house of worship to get one’s entire spiritual system from.
Ritual abuse systems may be hidden in a variety of different religions. Hammond, LA is an example of a ritual abuse system being hidden in a Christian religion. Many occult and dark religions have been found to have ritual abuse systems hidden in them also.
4) Soldiers in our society – the sad reality is that soldiers are often unknowingly working to protect corporate interests in other parts of the world. They like most of society are indoctrinated into a social system that teaches them that war is okay if our government says so. They are trained to follow orders in their basic training that some have compared to mind control systems. This is not to state that soldiers are bad people. They are often good people that have been indoctrinated by our social system.
Ritual abuse victims are like soldiers in some ways. They have roles they follow due to their indoctrination. Child soldiers are an example of soldiers being indoctrinated in a cult manner to fight and kill.
5) Capitalism is a beneficial economic system – the truth is that it is impossible to have a fair and equal society in a society where the most important thing is to make money. The focus to help others is lost. As we see in our own society, over time the rich get richer and the poor suffer greatly. This systems causes immense suffering and death for those unable to survive in it.
Ritual abuse victims are part of this system. They often make money for the cults as sex slaves, prostitutes or bringing in others to do this kind of work.
6) The media presents information fairly and equally – The reality is that the media often does not tell the truth and packages misinformation as the truth, repeating this as propaganda until people do not believe the truth. A good example of this is any of the mentioned points or our own topic, ritual abuse. The reality is that ritual abuse and cults exist and have existed for years. The media refuses to present our stories and the research around this, repeating the same lies about McMartin and other child abuse and day care cases. We have thousands of research articles refuting media lies, yet it is impossible to get this information into the media.
7) People believe they are not mind controlled – the reality is that everyone is, the question is how much are they mind controlled. Gender roles are a good example of mind control that almost everyone follows. TV is an example of a mind control device. People are put into a trance and become very susceptible to mind control and social programming. Religion has many mind control techniques, including certain types of prayer, fear programming and repetition. Many sales techniques are based on mind control techniques. Car sales techniques are a good example of mind control techniques. The way churches and malls are set up are meant to disorient one and make one more susceptible to mind control.
Ritual abuse survivors, even those in recovery for years do not realize they are still mind controlled, nor do they realize when they are being accessed by others. They fall for emotional appeals. If someone asks you lots of questions about yourself when you are tired or more relaxed, they could be using mind control techniques to get more information about you.
The way to heal is to realize that anyone can be mind controlled. And those that are not familiar with mind control, social programming and propaganda techniques are being mind controlled.
Break through all programming. If you don’t, you may be susceptible to being revictimized by cult and ritual abuse mind control.
How do we break through programming?
1) Know when you are being mind controlled. If you are feeling spacey or dissociated, this means you may be susceptible to mind control. Try to get away from wherever you are. Mind control methods can include any of these media misused : TV (often misused), music, repetition, prayer, certain phrases, tone and the pacing of speech. Some religious and cult leaders know how to use these techniques and will use them. Hand movements can also be used to hypnotize people. Learn how different tones and types of music can be used to put one into a trance and avoid these.
2) A person that wants to mind control or access you will wait until you are susceptible. They know people want to connect to others. Love bombing is an overt form of mind control cults use. At a conference, people may wait until you are tired, be careful of evening and second day conversations, especially the end of conferences when people are tired. People that want to access you will ask a lot of questions. Cult people will want specific details, like demographic and other personal information. Trust your gut. If you feel uneasy when someone is asking you something, you don’t need to tell them. You can politely say “I prefer not to discuss that.” A cult person may lead up to these questions with more general details, even divulging their own info so you give them yours. Again, go with your gut feelings around this. If you aren’t sure, you don’t have to say anything.
3) People misrepresent themselves. Rarely, will a person admit they are using mind control techniques on you. They may appear to be the nicest, friendliest or shyest person in the world. They may state they want to help you. The religious leaders now accused of raping 100s of children were often well loved charismatic people. On message boards, these people will often appear to be very helpful. When reading their messages, consider how they feel. Are they sincere or do they feel phony.
4) Don’t trust those hiding behind undefined philosophies. They may talk about how they are healing others, or ask you to listen to your inner voice. They may ask you to find the god within you or something like that. These philosophies may be new age, occult or Christian based philosophies. Mind controllers will find which philosophy or approach works best with you. Then they will use it.
5) Mind controllers will use shock techniques. These get more attention. You will especially see these often in the media. Or they may use an emotional appeal. Their writing will have strong emotional words in it, that will seem overdone and out of place. Shock techniques and strong emotions make one more susceptible to mind control.
6) Repetition is another technique. The media will often repeat the same message repeatedly. The denialists of ritual abuse crimes use these techniques.
7) Be careful of those that deny they are ritual abuse survivors when it appears they are. These people may have a role in social situations, like gathering information or finding out more about people’s programming and personal information.
8) A person with less mind control or not mind controlled will feel more real. They won’t feel like part of a person with a mask. They won’t discuss how they want to save the world or heal in an undefined way. You will be able to have a real conversation with them and realize they are really there. As you work hard to recover with therapy and breaking through traumas, you will be able to notice this in others more.
Why is this all important?
Living without mind control is like living without addictions. Everything looks, feels and becomes real. The fog disappears. One’s memory improves. One can truly help others. Expect to encounter resistant. Those that are not mind controlled are not liked by cults or those that control society to profit off of others’ work. They will try to silence you. Remember “your silence will NOT protect you.” They will work to keep your message from reaching others. Don’t let this happen. Speak out and help others heal from mind control.
Remember, a free life is the best life.
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Doing the right thing and getting stronger at the same time, a survivor’s path to recovery and helping others.
Doing the right thing and getting stronger at the same time, a survivor’s path to recovery and helping others.
Neil Brick’s conference transcript from the 2014 Annual Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control Conference
Please use caution while reading this presentation. It may be triggering. All accusations are alleged. The conference and this transcript are educational and not intended as therapy or treatment
Neil Brick is a survivor of child abuse and ritual abuse. He has worked for over twenty years in the child abuse education and prevention field. He has written many articles and spoken at several conferences on the topic of ritual abuse. His articles can be found at http://neilbrick.com and https://ritualabuse.us His topic is: Doing the right thing and getting stronger at the same time, a survivor’s path to recovery and helping others.
(Please note: This article is strictly the opinion of the author and not necessarily the opinion of the SMART newsletter or the webmaster.)
Today’s topic could be equally applied to any spiritual path or social endeavor where one wants to make personal and social progress.
I will describe how one can do the right thing and also get stronger in their lives. Without doing the right things and persevering to do the right things, one cannot grow and change, nor can one help others or the world. The right thing is determined by one’s personal goals and personal instincts.
I will break each idea down into two sections: what works and what doesn’t.
1) Social advocacy
Social advocacy entails speaking out.
For years, survivors have been silenced, first by harassment and threats. In the last ten years, the harassment and threats have moved more toward Internet bullying and Internet trolling. The Internet has allowed two phenomena to grow. One is the phenomena of Internet attacks. Two is the phenomena of inaccurate information used against child abuse survivors combined with insults. These phenomena and their power are increased by the anonymity of the Internet and by the shelter of Section 230 of the Communication Decency Act. This act in essence protects providers from being responsible from much of what is on their web pages. This has allowed attacks and misinformation to expand exponentially against survivors and anti-child abuse advocates. The harassment spreads misinformation and works to scare off and silence anti-child abuse advocates.
The antidote is to speak up and counter the misinformation, insults, bullying and name calling by those fighting anti-child abuse advocates.
For years, I have been explaining the importance of speaking up and defending our work. When misinformation is published in any forum about our work, it must be countered and rebutted. Otherwise, only the misinformation stands in the public forum and public minds. And we lose.
What has happened over the last twenty years is the reluctance and at times mistaken ideology that if these attacks are ignored, they won’t be noticed. This is not true. The Internet and search engines make all attacks public and accessible to all. This has caused our point of view and research to disappear from the public view. All that is left is the insults and misinformation.
The misinformation is that we are “crazy” and that there was some sort of “panic” when child abuse crimes were exposed twenty years ago. Calling someone crazy is a cheap and well known tactic used to discredit someone instead of rebutting their actual research. Repeating untrue and disproved theories, like “panic” is another false tactic used to discredit our work.
The antidote is to speak up. If we don’t speak up, survivors suffer and children suffer.
What works is to speak up. What doesn’t work is silence.
2) Misalignment with non-growth philosophies
Another mistake survivors make is to align themselves with either religious or negative political philosophies. To try to grow and help the world change, without thinking through and developing one’s own philosophy and using it, doesn’t work.
Religions and religious books may be helpful to get information from, but not to follow or join. They may be helpful as a temporary step for some when leaving a cult, but in the long run, they become a trap.
Many religions discourage original thought and personal action. Members do not realize this. Religions use different techniques to get people to follow them and not think for themselves. They encourage rote learning and repetition to instill ideas in people’s mind. Some are even used to re-access ritual abuse survivors and control them. Socialization in general involves levels of programming, though these may be more mundane and less nefarious than mind control programming. Religion uses a variety of techniques to make a person feel good, but most are not truly one’s own, but are contrived and manufactured by the religion itself.
Many of us escaped groups that controlled us. Now we are free. Let’s use that freedom to develop our own lives and our own ideas.
What works is thinking for oneself. What doesn’t is following another’s ideas without clear analysis.
Another mistake child abuse survivors make is following negative political philosophies. Many of us as cult survivors were used to make a profit for the cult. The society turned its back on us (and still does) because money was made and power was increased. Many survivors follow right wing jingoistic philosophies that in reality are philosophies of hate. These philosophies back the hatred of immigrants or the promotion of war and bombing other countries. Others in the US believe they may be following more progressive philosophies, but in reality many of these philosophies also promote hatred, injustice and violence.
The reality is that as long as there is an imbalance in the social power dynamic, the encouragement of profit over morality and right action and the control of information via the mass media, it will be impossible to have any sort of justice in our country or the world. The only way to help survivors grow and to help the world around us grow is to embrace philosophies that do not foster hate, power imbalances or violence. This means believing in political systems that promote economic and social equality and justice. It will be impossible to stop child abuse and help survivors fully until we live in a world where equality is promoted, violence is stopped and ethics triumph profit motives.
What works is equality, nonviolence and ethics. What doesn’t work is inequity, war and violence (in words or actions) and monetary profit motives above all other goals.
3) Right action equals personal and social growth
If one is really thinking for oneself and really trying hard not to hurt others, then one can begin to make a large difference in the world.
Following through on right action can be difficult without the development of personal courage and personal integrity.
One needs to leave the ego behind. Many survivors get caught up in their health issues, personal struggles and personal relationships to the point where they lose focus on what needs to be done in the survivor movement. In long term recovery, eventually one needs to move on to doing service work.
There is no way one can grow and get stronger without helping others. It is impossible. Helping others builds connections with others. It breaks down the symptoms of attachment disorders, it helps build bonds of trusts between others and it increases the overall connections between people. Doing service also helps people build insights into their own actions and psychological condition.
Right action builds social growth. When one helps others, one helps the people around them and our society. Stopping child abuse by telling our stories, helping others get their stories out and making sure there are adequate resources for child abuse survivors, including adults and children, helps our society grow.
Child abuse robs people and our society as a whole in many ways. From addictions, to health issues, to psychological problems, to long term disabilities, child abuse destroys our society. Exposing child abuse and exposing those that cover up child abuse crimes due to their own denial and self interest helps build a world where someday child abuse will no longer exist. A world where trauma crimes can no longer be hidden. When they can no longer be hidden, covered up or denied, child abuse will no longer be allowed to exist.
What works is right action and helping others. What doesn’t work is being caught up in one’s own personal struggles.
4) Getting Stronger
This is what it is all about. One cannot get stronger by pulling others down. Their strength is a facade. Their actions damage the world, but most of all themselves. Insults, name calling and personal attacks are never part of any growth philosophy and only weaken the proponent of these actions. Standing up to and exposing these tactics is crucial. Running from any false philosophy or believe systems being promoted by others only strengthens the hold these beliefs have on society. Lack of action exponentially damages the individuals involved and our society. All participants are hurt, those watching are hurt and those that do not get help or correct information due to the damage done also get hurt.
Strength entails addressing problems compassionately and intelligently. The ends are the means. Our actions govern the final result. By addressing a problem with strength and caring for those involved, we can build end results that help everyone and others later.
History is written by those that act. It is decided by those that are strong enough to speak up and tell the truth. The only way to grow is to work one’s way to the truth through hard work, courage and right action. This makes all of us strong.
What works is working hard and persevering to get stronger. What doesn’t work is hurting others and running from challenges.
Conclusion
If you do the right thing, you will get stronger. Your recovery as a survivor will get stronger by helping others. And others will get stronger also.
What works is to speak up.
What works is thinking for oneself.
What works is equality, nonviolence and ethics.
What works is right action and helping others.
What works is working hard and persevering to get stronger.
We are at a turning point in the survivor movement. Whether the movement continues or gets lost like last century is up to everyone. A lot of people and children depend on us to do the right thing. We can stop child abuse and trauma crimes and change the future.
Neil Brick’s conference transcript from the 2014 Annual Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control Conference
Please use caution while reading this presentation. It may be triggering. All accusations are alleged. The conference and this transcript are educational and not intended as therapy or treatment
Neil Brick is a survivor of child abuse and ritual abuse. He has worked for over twenty years in the child abuse education and prevention field. He has written many articles and spoken at several conferences on the topic of ritual abuse. His articles can be found at http://neilbrick.com and https://ritualabuse.us His topic is: Doing the right thing and getting stronger at the same time, a survivor’s path to recovery and helping others.
(Please note: This article is strictly the opinion of the author and not necessarily the opinion of the SMART newsletter or the webmaster.)
Today’s topic could be equally applied to any spiritual path or social endeavor where one wants to make personal and social progress.
I will describe how one can do the right thing and also get stronger in their lives. Without doing the right things and persevering to do the right things, one cannot grow and change, nor can one help others or the world. The right thing is determined by one’s personal goals and personal instincts.
I will break each idea down into two sections: what works and what doesn’t.
1) Social advocacy
Social advocacy entails speaking out.
For years, survivors have been silenced, first by harassment and threats. In the last ten years, the harassment and threats have moved more toward Internet bullying and Internet trolling. The Internet has allowed two phenomena to grow. One is the phenomena of Internet attacks. Two is the phenomena of inaccurate information used against child abuse survivors combined with insults. These phenomena and their power are increased by the anonymity of the Internet and by the shelter of Section 230 of the Communication Decency Act. This act in essence protects providers from being responsible from much of what is on their web pages. This has allowed attacks and misinformation to expand exponentially against survivors and anti-child abuse advocates. The harassment spreads misinformation and works to scare off and silence anti-child abuse advocates.
The antidote is to speak up and counter the misinformation, insults, bullying and name calling by those fighting anti-child abuse advocates.
For years, I have been explaining the importance of speaking up and defending our work. When misinformation is published in any forum about our work, it must be countered and rebutted. Otherwise, only the misinformation stands in the public forum and public minds. And we lose.
What has happened over the last twenty years is the reluctance and at times mistaken ideology that if these attacks are ignored, they won’t be noticed. This is not true. The Internet and search engines make all attacks public and accessible to all. This has caused our point of view and research to disappear from the public view. All that is left is the insults and misinformation.
The misinformation is that we are “crazy” and that there was some sort of “panic” when child abuse crimes were exposed twenty years ago. Calling someone crazy is a cheap and well known tactic used to discredit someone instead of rebutting their actual research. Repeating untrue and disproved theories, like “panic” is another false tactic used to discredit our work.
The antidote is to speak up. If we don’t speak up, survivors suffer and children suffer.
What works is to speak up. What doesn’t work is silence.
2) Misalignment with non-growth philosophies
Another mistake survivors make is to align themselves with either religious or negative political philosophies. To try to grow and help the world change, without thinking through and developing one’s own philosophy and using it, doesn’t work.
Religions and religious books may be helpful to get information from, but not to follow or join. They may be helpful as a temporary step for some when leaving a cult, but in the long run, they become a trap.
Many religions discourage original thought and personal action. Members do not realize this. Religions use different techniques to get people to follow them and not think for themselves. They encourage rote learning and repetition to instill ideas in people’s mind. Some are even used to re-access ritual abuse survivors and control them. Socialization in general involves levels of programming, though these may be more mundane and less nefarious than mind control programming. Religion uses a variety of techniques to make a person feel good, but most are not truly one’s own, but are contrived and manufactured by the religion itself.
Many of us escaped groups that controlled us. Now we are free. Let’s use that freedom to develop our own lives and our own ideas.
What works is thinking for oneself. What doesn’t is following another’s ideas without clear analysis.
Another mistake child abuse survivors make is following negative political philosophies. Many of us as cult survivors were used to make a profit for the cult. The society turned its back on us (and still does) because money was made and power was increased. Many survivors follow right wing jingoistic philosophies that in reality are philosophies of hate. These philosophies back the hatred of immigrants or the promotion of war and bombing other countries. Others in the US believe they may be following more progressive philosophies, but in reality many of these philosophies also promote hatred, injustice and violence.
The reality is that as long as there is an imbalance in the social power dynamic, the encouragement of profit over morality and right action and the control of information via the mass media, it will be impossible to have any sort of justice in our country or the world. The only way to help survivors grow and to help the world around us grow is to embrace philosophies that do not foster hate, power imbalances or violence. This means believing in political systems that promote economic and social equality and justice. It will be impossible to stop child abuse and help survivors fully until we live in a world where equality is promoted, violence is stopped and ethics triumph profit motives.
What works is equality, nonviolence and ethics. What doesn’t work is inequity, war and violence (in words or actions) and monetary profit motives above all other goals.
3) Right action equals personal and social growth
If one is really thinking for oneself and really trying hard not to hurt others, then one can begin to make a large difference in the world.
Following through on right action can be difficult without the development of personal courage and personal integrity.
One needs to leave the ego behind. Many survivors get caught up in their health issues, personal struggles and personal relationships to the point where they lose focus on what needs to be done in the survivor movement. In long term recovery, eventually one needs to move on to doing service work.
There is no way one can grow and get stronger without helping others. It is impossible. Helping others builds connections with others. It breaks down the symptoms of attachment disorders, it helps build bonds of trusts between others and it increases the overall connections between people. Doing service also helps people build insights into their own actions and psychological condition.
Right action builds social growth. When one helps others, one helps the people around them and our society. Stopping child abuse by telling our stories, helping others get their stories out and making sure there are adequate resources for child abuse survivors, including adults and children, helps our society grow.
Child abuse robs people and our society as a whole in many ways. From addictions, to health issues, to psychological problems, to long term disabilities, child abuse destroys our society. Exposing child abuse and exposing those that cover up child abuse crimes due to their own denial and self interest helps build a world where someday child abuse will no longer exist. A world where trauma crimes can no longer be hidden. When they can no longer be hidden, covered up or denied, child abuse will no longer be allowed to exist.
What works is right action and helping others. What doesn’t work is being caught up in one’s own personal struggles.
4) Getting Stronger
This is what it is all about. One cannot get stronger by pulling others down. Their strength is a facade. Their actions damage the world, but most of all themselves. Insults, name calling and personal attacks are never part of any growth philosophy and only weaken the proponent of these actions. Standing up to and exposing these tactics is crucial. Running from any false philosophy or believe systems being promoted by others only strengthens the hold these beliefs have on society. Lack of action exponentially damages the individuals involved and our society. All participants are hurt, those watching are hurt and those that do not get help or correct information due to the damage done also get hurt.
Strength entails addressing problems compassionately and intelligently. The ends are the means. Our actions govern the final result. By addressing a problem with strength and caring for those involved, we can build end results that help everyone and others later.
History is written by those that act. It is decided by those that are strong enough to speak up and tell the truth. The only way to grow is to work one’s way to the truth through hard work, courage and right action. This makes all of us strong.
What works is working hard and persevering to get stronger. What doesn’t work is hurting others and running from challenges.
Conclusion
If you do the right thing, you will get stronger. Your recovery as a survivor will get stronger by helping others. And others will get stronger also.
What works is to speak up.
What works is thinking for oneself.
What works is equality, nonviolence and ethics.
What works is right action and helping others.
What works is working hard and persevering to get stronger.
We are at a turning point in the survivor movement. Whether the movement continues or gets lost like last century is up to everyone. A lot of people and children depend on us to do the right thing. We can stop child abuse and trauma crimes and change the future.
Rebuttal to the Grey Faction Lucien Greaves presentation about SMART and additional Grey Faction information about Neil Brick
Rebuttal to the Grey Faction Lucien Greaves presentation about SMART and additional Grey Faction information about Neil Brick
Recently Lucien Greaves (aka Doug Mesner) and Sarah Ponto Rivera spoke at a conference about Satanism’s fight against “witch hunters.” They state they are part of the “Grey Faction.” Their presentation contains many falsehoods, distortions and inaccuracies.
Mr. Mesner has harassed SMART and other survivors and helpers of ritual abuse for several years online. We believe aliases have been used adding additional insults and name calling against survivors. We believe this is an attempt to silence child abuse and ritual abuse survivors and their helpers.
Many of the articles written in rebuttal about his repeated attacks can be found at:
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-mesner-and-the-lucien-greaves-satanic-temple-connection/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-7-radio-interview-rebuttal/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-6-examiner-com-article/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-5/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-4/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-3/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-2/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/
Lucien Greaves (aka Doug Mesner) begins the presentation discussing an overview of the field.
His overview is scientifically inaccurate. He talks about conspiracists, yet those working in the ritual abuse field have strong evidence to back their theories. Some of the theories are listed at:
Proof the Ritual Abuse Exists
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/
and
Ritual Abuse References
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/
He talks about the idea of “satanic panic” yet there was no panic. There were a variety of child abuse cases being exposed in the 1980s and 1990s and some contained ritual abuse and Satanic elements.
He discussed the idea of multiple personality disorder (now called Dissociative Identity Disorder or DID). This is a legitimate and scientifically proven mental health condition, which continues to be listed in the latest version of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) released in the last year.
Research on DID is at https://ritualabuse.us/research/
There are a few extremists in the mental health field, like any field, that believe DID does not exist. There is no legitimate scientific data that validates this.
Mr. Greaves (aka Mesner) discusses the idea of repressed memories.
There are many studies that show fairly high corroboration rates for recovered memories.
https://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-corroboration-rates/
He talks about a “sales booth” at one of SMART’s conferences. The table was one of many that contained clothing items that block electronic magnetic rays from users for health reasons. These items were only at one of our 18 conferences and were brought by an independent vendor to the conference. Yet Mr. Greaves repeatedly discusses this topic to discredit our work and adds to it by talking about “tin foil hats” (there were no such hats at the conference).
He attributes further theories to SMART and its conference attendees that many do not prescribe to. This misattribution is used to further malign and discredit our work to help child abuse survivors.
Sarah Ponto Rivera presents the second half of the material with more factual inaccuracies.
She states: “Neil Brick believes he is a CIA super soldier.” This is not true. Neil Brick does not believe this, this characterization is only used to further discredit Neil Brick and SMART’s work to help survivors. She continues: “Pretty much any conspiracy theory kind of just take a part of it and you’ve got Neil Brick.” Neil Brick does not believe in conspiracy theories (only factually accurate information) and all information presented on our website is researched in detail before it is added to the website.
She repeatedly mentions that Neil Brick “admitted when in an altered state of mind which he believes was in another personality of his that he raped and murdered.” Neil does write about being forced as a small child to kill in a cult. This was against his will and many others have written about being forced to kill as children in cults and gangs. Ms. Rivera incorrectly extrapolates further that this may mean that Neil Brick may not be of “good moral character.” She makes this statement, yet she does not know Neil Brick and has never met Neil Brick. Neil has worked for years under severe harassment like this to help survivors of child abuse and makes sure that information and research make it out to the public about child abuse crimes.
She discusses how “a complaint was filed through one of our Grey Faction members and to his licensing board and they dismissed the complaint without prejudice.” The complaint was dismissed and Neil Brick was found fit to practice with sound moral character. This was after a full year of review from several sources. Ms. Rivera’s perspective may be biased by her work with the “Grey Faction.” During her presentation she discusses filing a complaint against another person. SMART believes these type of complaints may be part of a harassment campaign to silence anti-child abuse advocates and helpers.
In conclusion, we believe that many statements made against SMART and Neil Brick during the video were inaccurate and contained distortions. We encourage readers to visit the links listed above to get full information about this online harassment campaign against child abuse survivors and to read about the scientific research about dissociation and trauma from journal articles written by experienced professionals.
Recently Lucien Greaves (aka Doug Mesner) and Sarah Ponto Rivera spoke at a conference about Satanism’s fight against “witch hunters.” They state they are part of the “Grey Faction.” Their presentation contains many falsehoods, distortions and inaccuracies.
Mr. Mesner has harassed SMART and other survivors and helpers of ritual abuse for several years online. We believe aliases have been used adding additional insults and name calling against survivors. We believe this is an attempt to silence child abuse and ritual abuse survivors and their helpers.
Many of the articles written in rebuttal about his repeated attacks can be found at:
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-mesner-and-the-lucien-greaves-satanic-temple-connection/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-7-radio-interview-rebuttal/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-6-examiner-com-article/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-5/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-4/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-3/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update-2/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-update/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/harassment-by-false-memory-proponents/
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/rebuttal-to-the-report-from-the-smart-2009-conference/
Lucien Greaves (aka Doug Mesner) begins the presentation discussing an overview of the field.
His overview is scientifically inaccurate. He talks about conspiracists, yet those working in the ritual abuse field have strong evidence to back their theories. Some of the theories are listed at:
Proof the Ritual Abuse Exists
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/
and
Ritual Abuse References
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/
He talks about the idea of “satanic panic” yet there was no panic. There were a variety of child abuse cases being exposed in the 1980s and 1990s and some contained ritual abuse and Satanic elements.
He discussed the idea of multiple personality disorder (now called Dissociative Identity Disorder or DID). This is a legitimate and scientifically proven mental health condition, which continues to be listed in the latest version of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) released in the last year.
Research on DID is at https://ritualabuse.us/research/
There are a few extremists in the mental health field, like any field, that believe DID does not exist. There is no legitimate scientific data that validates this.
Mr. Greaves (aka Mesner) discusses the idea of repressed memories.
There are many studies that show fairly high corroboration rates for recovered memories.
https://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-corroboration-rates/
He talks about a “sales booth” at one of SMART’s conferences. The table was one of many that contained clothing items that block electronic magnetic rays from users for health reasons. These items were only at one of our 18 conferences and were brought by an independent vendor to the conference. Yet Mr. Greaves repeatedly discusses this topic to discredit our work and adds to it by talking about “tin foil hats” (there were no such hats at the conference).
He attributes further theories to SMART and its conference attendees that many do not prescribe to. This misattribution is used to further malign and discredit our work to help child abuse survivors.
Sarah Ponto Rivera presents the second half of the material with more factual inaccuracies.
She states: “Neil Brick believes he is a CIA super soldier.” This is not true. Neil Brick does not believe this, this characterization is only used to further discredit Neil Brick and SMART’s work to help survivors. She continues: “Pretty much any conspiracy theory kind of just take a part of it and you’ve got Neil Brick.” Neil Brick does not believe in conspiracy theories (only factually accurate information) and all information presented on our website is researched in detail before it is added to the website.
She repeatedly mentions that Neil Brick “admitted when in an altered state of mind which he believes was in another personality of his that he raped and murdered.” Neil does write about being forced as a small child to kill in a cult. This was against his will and many others have written about being forced to kill as children in cults and gangs. Ms. Rivera incorrectly extrapolates further that this may mean that Neil Brick may not be of “good moral character.” She makes this statement, yet she does not know Neil Brick and has never met Neil Brick. Neil has worked for years under severe harassment like this to help survivors of child abuse and makes sure that information and research make it out to the public about child abuse crimes.
She discusses how “a complaint was filed through one of our Grey Faction members and to his licensing board and they dismissed the complaint without prejudice.” The complaint was dismissed and Neil Brick was found fit to practice with sound moral character. This was after a full year of review from several sources. Ms. Rivera’s perspective may be biased by her work with the “Grey Faction.” During her presentation she discusses filing a complaint against another person. SMART believes these type of complaints may be part of a harassment campaign to silence anti-child abuse advocates and helpers.
In conclusion, we believe that many statements made against SMART and Neil Brick during the video were inaccurate and contained distortions. We encourage readers to visit the links listed above to get full information about this online harassment campaign against child abuse survivors and to read about the scientific research about dissociation and trauma from journal articles written by experienced professionals.
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